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> <channel><title>Comments on: 10 Reasons Not to Pay for Your Kids College</title> <atom:link href="http://www.moneyrelationship.com/college-saving/10-reasons-not-to-pay-for-your-kids-college/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.moneyrelationship.com/college-saving/10-reasons-not-to-pay-for-your-kids-college/</link> <description>Eliminate Debt, Enjoy Life</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 06:34:04 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: Chris</title><link>http://www.moneyrelationship.com/college-saving/10-reasons-not-to-pay-for-your-kids-college/#comment-4584</link> <dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 15:06:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.moneyrelationship.com/?p=63#comment-4584</guid> <description>@Sally - I hope you&#039;ve moved out by now. I grew up in an abusive home and can understand your situation.
I know that there are good students whose parents are paying for college, but it sounds as though the ones who&#039;ve commented here are responsible for their living expenses. It&#039;s often the students who are having everything paid for them who tend to take it for granted. It&#039;s also the students who are having everything handed to them which are making the colleges a rowdy and unpleasant place to be. A student who&#039;s responsible for paying his/her own way is probably more likely to look at ways of doing college more cheaply, ie, though credit-by-exam programs.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sally &#8211; I hope you&#8217;ve moved out by now. I grew up in an abusive home and can understand your situation.</p><p>I know that there are good students whose parents are paying for college, but it sounds as though the ones who&#8217;ve commented here are responsible for their living expenses. It&#8217;s often the students who are having everything paid for them who tend to take it for granted. It&#8217;s also the students who are having everything handed to them which are making the colleges a rowdy and unpleasant place to be. A student who&#8217;s responsible for paying his/her own way is probably more likely to look at ways of doing college more cheaply, ie, though credit-by-exam programs.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Leah</title><link>http://www.moneyrelationship.com/college-saving/10-reasons-not-to-pay-for-your-kids-college/#comment-3931</link> <dc:creator>Leah</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:16:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.moneyrelationship.com/?p=63#comment-3931</guid> <description>@Sally,
This sounds like a very difficult and upsetting situation. From your post, it seems like the majority of the stressors in your life, however, do not result from financial strain.
If your boyfriend is throwing things and yanking you out of bed, the relationship is already physically abusive. You should not wait to get out. You say that you cannot afford to move out. You cannot afford to stay.
College is a wonderful opportunity and an education is one of the most important assets a person can have, but your health (physical and emotional) really needs to be a priority.
Get out of the relationship, get out of the apartment, move back in with your mom if you need to. If this means taking leave from school for a few semesters, that would be disappointing, but you can complete that later. You can put that on hold. You cannot, however, put your well being on hold.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sally,</p><p>This sounds like a very difficult and upsetting situation. From your post, it seems like the majority of the stressors in your life, however, do not result from financial strain.</p><p>If your boyfriend is throwing things and yanking you out of bed, the relationship is already physically abusive. You should not wait to get out. You say that you cannot afford to move out. You cannot afford to stay.</p><p>College is a wonderful opportunity and an education is one of the most important assets a person can have, but your health (physical and emotional) really needs to be a priority.</p><p>Get out of the relationship, get out of the apartment, move back in with your mom if you need to. If this means taking leave from school for a few semesters, that would be disappointing, but you can complete that later. You can put that on hold. You cannot, however, put your well being on hold.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: sally</title><link>http://www.moneyrelationship.com/college-saving/10-reasons-not-to-pay-for-your-kids-college/#comment-3894</link> <dc:creator>sally</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:26:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.moneyrelationship.com/?p=63#comment-3894</guid> <description>i wish my mom would help me out!
im in a relationship where my boyfriend has become extremely emotionally abusive. I am scared it will escalate as he has begun throwing things, slamming doors, and yanking me awake, on a near constant basis...but I can&#039;t afford to move out. :( This happens constantly now. He even gets mad if I go to bed late because I am doing homework or studying...but he will still be awake, so it&#039;s not like he is trying to sleep. When I go to bed later than usual, he will yell at me and pull off the blankets for about an hour so that i cant sleep.
i hate having to rely on financial aid and loans. i am always so scared of losing them and having to drop out...i can&#039;t find a job (and I can&#039;t drive...not that i can afford a car anyway)...and i might lose my Cal Grant because my mom made too much money this year. D:
Also, i go to school in a rich area so it hurts seeing kids enjoying college life and stress free.
I am very resentful, because my mom literally wasted over $10,000 before I went to college.
I want to be able to move out...esp. if the relationship becomes abusive...and I want to study abroad and learn languages...i want to start a company...
i feel really depressed...my whole life i dealt with emotional abuse growing up...and now that I am FINALLY out on my own, i am still dealing with it (and more).
ps: my mom had me in her 40&#039;s...and is 62 now...i understand she just wants to relax...:(
i have my major and minor declared (business, marketing/advertising) and i love learning stuff on my own. I enroll in the maximum amount of units and get a&#039;s and b&#039;s in all my classes.
Anyway...im feeling kinda depressed figuring that after my midterm today (which my boyfriend ridiculed me yesterday for staying up to study for), and then had to fix my breaking laptop (i am currently typing on the usb keyboard since my boyfriend left his coffee on my laptop and it spilled.:()..but the screen went black and the sound failed earlier...anyway, then he wanted me to write his coverletter for an internship. He wrote nonsense that obv. only took around 5 minutes to write. I told him that he had to go more in depth and he flipped out and ran off.
i hate college (ps: my mom never taught me to drive because she has a fear of cars, and my boyfriend thinks I&#039;ll crash his car although he will always criticize me for not renewing my DMV - ive done it twice, and he would teach me for around 1 week whilst yelling and yelling...and then stop.)
:(
sorry for the rant...im so depressed tho! this advice is just an excuse for ppl to be cheap with their kids.
My mom is nice and she is older now...so I can&#039;t expect her to help...i just wish she could &gt;o&lt; Esp. since i might not get a FAFSA renewal. D:
so...depressed...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wish my mom would help me out!<br
/> im in a relationship where my boyfriend has become extremely emotionally abusive. I am scared it will escalate as he has begun throwing things, slamming doors, and yanking me awake, on a near constant basis&#8230;but I can&#8217;t afford to move out. <img
src='http://www.moneyrelationship.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> This happens constantly now. He even gets mad if I go to bed late because I am doing homework or studying&#8230;but he will still be awake, so it&#8217;s not like he is trying to sleep. When I go to bed later than usual, he will yell at me and pull off the blankets for about an hour so that i cant sleep.<br
/> i hate having to rely on financial aid and loans. i am always so scared of losing them and having to drop out&#8230;i can&#8217;t find a job (and I can&#8217;t drive&#8230;not that i can afford a car anyway)&#8230;and i might lose my Cal Grant because my mom made too much money this year. D:<br
/> Also, i go to school in a rich area so it hurts seeing kids enjoying college life and stress free.<br
/> I am very resentful, because my mom literally wasted over $10,000 before I went to college.<br
/> I want to be able to move out&#8230;esp. if the relationship becomes abusive&#8230;and I want to study abroad and learn languages&#8230;i want to start a company&#8230;<br
/> i feel really depressed&#8230;my whole life i dealt with emotional abuse growing up&#8230;and now that I am FINALLY out on my own, i am still dealing with it (and more).<br
/> ps: my mom had me in her 40&#8242;s&#8230;and is 62 now&#8230;i understand she just wants to relax&#8230;:(<br
/> i have my major and minor declared (business, marketing/advertising) and i love learning stuff on my own. I enroll in the maximum amount of units and get a&#8217;s and b&#8217;s in all my classes.<br
/> Anyway&#8230;im feeling kinda depressed figuring that after my midterm today (which my boyfriend ridiculed me yesterday for staying up to study for), and then had to fix my breaking laptop (i am currently typing on the usb keyboard since my boyfriend left his coffee on my laptop and it spilled.:()..but the screen went black and the sound failed earlier&#8230;anyway, then he wanted me to write his coverletter for an internship. He wrote nonsense that obv. only took around 5 minutes to write. I told him that he had to go more in depth and he flipped out and ran off.<br
/> i hate college (ps: my mom never taught me to drive because she has a fear of cars, and my boyfriend thinks I&#8217;ll crash his car although he will always criticize me for not renewing my DMV &#8211; ive done it twice, and he would teach me for around 1 week whilst yelling and yelling&#8230;and then stop.) <img
src='http://www.moneyrelationship.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>sorry for the rant&#8230;im so depressed tho! this advice is just an excuse for ppl to be cheap with their kids.<br
/> My mom is nice and she is older now&#8230;so I can&#8217;t expect her to help&#8230;i just wish she could &gt;o&lt; Esp. since i might not get a FAFSA renewal. D:<br
/> so&#8230;depressed&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Yana</title><link>http://www.moneyrelationship.com/college-saving/10-reasons-not-to-pay-for-your-kids-college/#comment-390</link> <dc:creator>Yana</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 00:14:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.moneyrelationship.com/?p=63#comment-390</guid> <description>I agree with you.  Some people are not college material, which in no way guarantees that they cannot attain financial success without it.  In fact, it takes more than a college education to succeed.  And that &quot;more&quot; alone can be enough for great success.
I shudder when I think of those who accumulated huge debt for their educations, and therefore have to earn much more in order to begin a clean financial slate.  And I shudder for myself, because I see something highly wrong with overpaying for professional services because I am paying for someone&#039;s educational debt.  These, however, are those who truly need the education for their career, and the ones who have the ambition, intelligence, and what it takes in general to succeed in their profession should be able to get that education on their merits - through scholarships and the like.
I live debt-free today, but of the debts I took on in the past, my student loan is the only one I really regret.  It was not that big, but it was an infuriating waste that I couldn&#039;t afford to pay back, but was literally forced to do so.  On the positive side, it was a big part of my decision to never finance anything again, so if I can do that indefinitely, perhaps it will have been worth it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you.  Some people are not college material, which in no way guarantees that they cannot attain financial success without it.  In fact, it takes more than a college education to succeed.  And that &#8220;more&#8221; alone can be enough for great success.</p><p>I shudder when I think of those who accumulated huge debt for their educations, and therefore have to earn much more in order to begin a clean financial slate.  And I shudder for myself, because I see something highly wrong with overpaying for professional services because I am paying for someone&#8217;s educational debt.  These, however, are those who truly need the education for their career, and the ones who have the ambition, intelligence, and what it takes in general to succeed in their profession should be able to get that education on their merits &#8211; through scholarships and the like.</p><p>I live debt-free today, but of the debts I took on in the past, my student loan is the only one I really regret.  It was not that big, but it was an infuriating waste that I couldn&#8217;t afford to pay back, but was literally forced to do so.  On the positive side, it was a big part of my decision to never finance anything again, so if I can do that indefinitely, perhaps it will have been worth it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Weekend Roundup 08/30/08 &#124; The Family Wallet</title><link>http://www.moneyrelationship.com/college-saving/10-reasons-not-to-pay-for-your-kids-college/#comment-84</link> <dc:creator>Weekend Roundup 08/30/08 &#124; The Family Wallet</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:31:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.moneyrelationship.com/?p=63#comment-84</guid> <description>[...] 10 Reasons Not to Pay for Your Kids College at Your Money Relationship. [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 10 Reasons Not to Pay for Your Kids College at Your Money Relationship. [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Adam</title><link>http://www.moneyrelationship.com/college-saving/10-reasons-not-to-pay-for-your-kids-college/#comment-82</link> <dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:04:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.moneyrelationship.com/?p=63#comment-82</guid> <description>@Stephanie - I agree with you that there are many in both camps that are really bad at school in general. I just see more of the bad things in the &#039;my mom and dad pay for it&#039; camp. That&#039;s just my perception. I really do not know what the actual statistics are and I would be very happy to see some research done. I really doubt there will be though, unless I do it myself. I don&#039;t see that happening the in near future! :-)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Stephanie &#8211; I agree with you that there are many in both camps that are really bad at school in general. I just see more of the bad things in the &#8216;my mom and dad pay for it&#8217; camp. That&#8217;s just my perception. I really do not know what the actual statistics are and I would be very happy to see some research done. I really doubt there will be though, unless I do it myself. I don&#8217;t see that happening the in near future! <img
src='http://www.moneyrelationship.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Stephanie PTY</title><link>http://www.moneyrelationship.com/college-saving/10-reasons-not-to-pay-for-your-kids-college/#comment-81</link> <dc:creator>Stephanie PTY</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:29:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.moneyrelationship.com/?p=63#comment-81</guid> <description>I have to agree with what E.C. said, namely &quot;I&#039;ve had classmates who &quot;paid their own way&quot; primarily with loans who had no more sense of what their education meant than the worst of the people whose parents footed the whole bill.&quot;
At a certain point, loans just don&#039;t feel like &quot;you&#039;re paying.&quot; Knowing that I would have $40,000+ in loans upon graduation made it hard to associate payment to any particular class. And I had friends who had full scholarships that were extremely diligent and carried 4.0s (or close to) at a school where that&#039;s extremely difficult to do.
Although I think a lot of your points are valid, I feel like the &quot;we will appreciate it more if we pay our own way&quot; argument should be put to bed.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with what E.C. said, namely &#8220;I&#8217;ve had classmates who &#8220;paid their own way&#8221; primarily with loans who had no more sense of what their education meant than the worst of the people whose parents footed the whole bill.&#8221;</p><p>At a certain point, loans just don&#8217;t feel like &#8220;you&#8217;re paying.&#8221; Knowing that I would have $40,000+ in loans upon graduation made it hard to associate payment to any particular class. And I had friends who had full scholarships that were extremely diligent and carried 4.0s (or close to) at a school where that&#8217;s extremely difficult to do.</p><p>Although I think a lot of your points are valid, I feel like the &#8220;we will appreciate it more if we pay our own way&#8221; argument should be put to bed.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: See My Money</title><link>http://www.moneyrelationship.com/college-saving/10-reasons-not-to-pay-for-your-kids-college/#comment-75</link> <dc:creator>See My Money</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:00:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.moneyrelationship.com/?p=63#comment-75</guid> <description>Good points. I am saving for education in a ROTH. If my kids need it, it&#039;s there. If not, it can more easily be used elsewhere. My hope is they don&#039;t need it because they have scholarships!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points. I am saving for education in a ROTH. If my kids need it, it&#8217;s there. If not, it can more easily be used elsewhere. My hope is they don&#8217;t need it because they have scholarships!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jamie</title><link>http://www.moneyrelationship.com/college-saving/10-reasons-not-to-pay-for-your-kids-college/#comment-74</link> <dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:07:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.moneyrelationship.com/?p=63#comment-74</guid> <description>@Adam - I appreciate the clarification and, without taking myself into consideration, definitely do see yoru point.  There are a lot of people who need more responsibility in their lives and maybe that is what is most important.  Despite my father paying my tuition, I do have a signifigant amount of responsibility, both financially and otherwise, between running a full, busy household at nineteen and maintaining my GPA.
I think what is most important is figuring out what level of responsibility will most benefit your children.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Adam &#8211; I appreciate the clarification and, without taking myself into consideration, definitely do see yoru point.  There are a lot of people who need more responsibility in their lives and maybe that is what is most important.  Despite my father paying my tuition, I do have a signifigant amount of responsibility, both financially and otherwise, between running a full, busy household at nineteen and maintaining my GPA.<br
/> I think what is most important is figuring out what level of responsibility will most benefit your children.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: E.C.</title><link>http://www.moneyrelationship.com/college-saving/10-reasons-not-to-pay-for-your-kids-college/#comment-73</link> <dc:creator>E.C.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:01:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.moneyrelationship.com/?p=63#comment-73</guid> <description>I intend to save enough to pay for four years of in-state tuition if I have children. My parents didn&#039;t pay for my college education, but they would have helped out if I&#039;d needed it. I ended up at my state university despite acceptances and large scholarship offers from a couple of top notch private universities because my parents couldn&#039;t afford anywhere close to their expected contribution as determined by the FAFSA and it just didn&#039;t make sense to take out tens of thousands of dollars in loans when I knew I had graduate school in my future as well.
I&#039;ve had classmates who &quot;paid their own way&quot; primarily with loans who had no more sense of what their education meant than the worst of the people whose parents footed the whole bill. I&#039;ve also seen plenty of hardworking students whose parents paid as well many who got large scholarships or worked two jobs. I&#039;d love to see some formal studies on this type of thing, but I don&#039;t think it would be possible to control for all of the outside factors.
Fortunately, I got a good education from the state university that was willing to pay for everything and provide a stipend. That has put me in above average financial shape since i was able to finish undergrad with substantial savings instead of loans. I&#039;d like to help pass that good start in adult life along to any future children.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I intend to save enough to pay for four years of in-state tuition if I have children. My parents didn&#8217;t pay for my college education, but they would have helped out if I&#8217;d needed it. I ended up at my state university despite acceptances and large scholarship offers from a couple of top notch private universities because my parents couldn&#8217;t afford anywhere close to their expected contribution as determined by the FAFSA and it just didn&#8217;t make sense to take out tens of thousands of dollars in loans when I knew I had graduate school in my future as well.</p><p>I&#8217;ve had classmates who &#8220;paid their own way&#8221; primarily with loans who had no more sense of what their education meant than the worst of the people whose parents footed the whole bill. I&#8217;ve also seen plenty of hardworking students whose parents paid as well many who got large scholarships or worked two jobs. I&#8217;d love to see some formal studies on this type of thing, but I don&#8217;t think it would be possible to control for all of the outside factors.</p><p>Fortunately, I got a good education from the state university that was willing to pay for everything and provide a stipend. That has put me in above average financial shape since i was able to finish undergrad with substantial savings instead of loans. I&#8217;d like to help pass that good start in adult life along to any future children.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
